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welcome to the hidden truth show podcast

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we're gonna play for you an excerpt from

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our interview this week with David pick

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up David pick up was molested multiple

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times by an older boy neighbor when he

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was five years old as a result he

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developed sexual feelings toward men in

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his teens he sought counseling over this

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and by going back through his childhood

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trauma he was able to alleviate and

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reduce those sexual feelings he now

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lives as a heterosexual man

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he provides therapy for others in

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similar situations but the state of

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California is about to make his therapy

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illegal watch this interview with David

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pickup and if you enjoy it go check out

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the hidden truth show podcast

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wherever you listen to podcasts

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and what about you yourself in your

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sexual orientation and whether if you

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had any issues with that or if you

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received this therapy yourself oh yeah

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that's that's what's so great is because

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I was one of those kids at five years of

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old that was sexually abused by an older

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guy I mean that you could just imagine

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how that affected my sexual feelings and

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in puberty make a variant and yeah sorry

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because I am interested in it is that

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essentially the only piece of trauma

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that you feel that you have no I was

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very typical I did I had some I was

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severely repressed good little boys

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syndrome was living in kind of half self

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because I was really I was ashamed based

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kit all right nothing intentionally

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happened to me nobody did anything

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intensely well except the sexual abuse

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guy but I learned to repress my feelings

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I learned that I wasn't acceptable I

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learned that my feelings weren't

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important and so I had a lot of shame

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issues and I had none of the almost none

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of the affirmation approval and

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affection that any boy would need and so

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those were that neglect and sometimes

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outright trauma greatly affected me and

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so long story short in my 30s I started

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reparative therapy and it helped save my

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life it just worked beautifully for me

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so I don't I don't have those feelings

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anymore I came here was that Susan

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colosi that was Uniqlo C's therapy

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repair authentic reparative therapy not

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MDR cuz that's only been around for two

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years and are you married with children

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nope nope I've come close but I'm still

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looking I was I was what you call up I

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did therapy over a a long period of time

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I had I years ago I was clinically

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depressed twice went through a lot of

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issues and so I was long story short I

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was a very late bloomer and so you know

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I probably missed some opportunities

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early my life

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could have been mine I was think I I had

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dated women and almost gotten married

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one time but as I look back now it

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wasn't good for me to do that so I'm

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glad it glad it ended but you know I

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regardless I decided a long time ago

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that whatever happens I was going to be

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happy regardless so some men that's

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their experience some men happen to find

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women that they're really attracted to

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and they fall in love with and and go on

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that journey that may not be my calling

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I don't know just to finish up on that

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subject for you personally if a hundred

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percent is interested in women

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exclusively and and and and zero percent

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is a is interested men exclusively where

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would you say you were on that spectrum

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before versus after sexually speaking

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romantically it's different but sexually

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speaking probably 10 percent interested

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in in women and now it's now I'm open to

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anything I mean I guess it would be 90%

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I don't have any homosexual attractions

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anymore if I do have something that

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comes up from the from the the the

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trauma issues it comes in the form of

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what the real issues are not sexual

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attraction go check out the hidden truth

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